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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are you, masked stranger?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My thoughts on this are mostly pragmatic.  The lowest common denominator is going to be a stream of bytes.  There&#039;s no getting around that; it&#039;s the hole we&#039;ve dug ourselves into.  (This is why resource forks disappeared from Macs.)  Being able to access that representation is important; there&#039;s no use in constructing a system which can&#039;t communicate&lt;br /&gt;to the outside world.  It&#039;s being restricted to that bytestream representation that is the problem.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess what interests me is the layer which converts a bytestream representation to a structured, typed representation and back again, somewhere where it can be endlessly reused and built upon.  Some sort of OS-level framework which eliminates the headache with bootstrapping data.  Whether this is done with orthoganal persistence or not isn&#039;t really the issue in my mind right now, although it certainly has a mindset which would make such things much simpler.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think UNIX pipes with structured types, I guess.  &lt;br /&gt;&quot;cat bla.jpg.gz &#124; gunzip &#124; jpg2jpgstruct &#124; jpgstruct2imgstruct &#124; imgstructdisplay&quot;, or&lt;br /&gt;&quot;cat foo.c &#124; c2cparsetree &#124; cparsetree2ir &#124; optimizeir &#124; ir2executable &gt; foo.exe&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;Filters stacked one on top of another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I certainly see your point, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are you, masked stranger?</p>
<p>My thoughts on this are mostly pragmatic.  The lowest common denominator is going to be a stream of bytes.  There&#8217;s no getting around that; it&#8217;s the hole we&#8217;ve dug ourselves into.  (This is why resource forks disappeared from Macs.)  Being able to access that representation is important; there&#8217;s no use in constructing a system which can&#8217;t communicate<br />to the outside world.  It&#8217;s being restricted to that bytestream representation that is the problem.  </p>
<p>I guess what interests me is the layer which converts a bytestream representation to a structured, typed representation and back again, somewhere where it can be endlessly reused and built upon.  Some sort of OS-level framework which eliminates the headache with bootstrapping data.  Whether this is done with orthoganal persistence or not isn&#8217;t really the issue in my mind right now, although it certainly has a mindset which would make such things much simpler.</p>
<p>Think UNIX pipes with structured types, I guess.  <br />&#8220;cat bla.jpg.gz | gunzip | jpg2jpgstruct | jpgstruct2imgstruct | imgstructdisplay&#8221;, or<br />&#8220;cat foo.c | c2cparsetree | cparsetree2ir | optimizeir | ir2executable > foo.exe&#8221;.<br />Filters stacked one on top of another.</p>
<p>I certainly see your point, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2004 05:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcliki.tunes.org%2FFile%2520System&quot;&gt;CTO:File System&lt;/a&gt;; &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcliki.tunes.org%2FOrthogonal%2520Persistence&quot;&gt;CTO:Orthogonal Persistence&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See: <a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcliki.tunes.org%2FFile%2520System">CTO:File System</a>; <a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcliki.tunes.org%2FOrthogonal%2520Persistence">CTO:Orthogonal Persistence</a></p>
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